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Gabriel Berzescu

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Does anyone know where I can find Donne's "Biathanatos" ?

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colleen gillis

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Gabriel,


You can try www.alibris.com; they have a couple of used copies but it will cost you in the range of $100-150. 


Good Luck!


Colleen



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Gabriel Berzescu

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Thank you.

It's sort of pricy... Can't I get it cheaper ? Even in electronic format. I mean... there shouldn't be a problem with the copyright.

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colleen gillis

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Gabriel,


If you have access to an online library through a university then your golden; if not, search the web for used copies.  With time and a little effort you will find a copy in the right price range. 


Colleen



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Gabriel Berzescu

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Thanks

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colleen gillis

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Hi Gabriel,


Good news!!!  I found a rare book site, which has several publications of Biathanatos.  The prices range from $25-$8,500.  The site is:


www.dogbert.abebooks.com  another site is www.campusi.com


C.



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Tom Hester

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Try abebooks.com: they have the most complete list of Donne books for sale.

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Gabriel Berzescu

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Thank you so much ! You really helped me alot :)

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ukrainian

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Christ dyed because he would dye . . . His soule did not leave his body by force, but because he would, and when he would . . . Christ did not dye naturally, nor violently, as all others do, but only voluntarily.
I do not need the full-text "Biathanatos"!
I should like to read the stanza (paragraph, chapter etc.), containing this quoting, completely. This was wholly it is enough.

We Ask to publish it here or send on justas1946@nm.ru

Shall be more thanking!

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We Beg pardon for terrible english of the program of the machine translation... :)

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iamblackbird

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For first, Christ dyed because he would dye; other men admitted to the dignity of Martyrdome, are willing to dye; but they dye by the torments of the Executioners, they cannot bid their soules goe out, and say, now I will dye. And this was Christs case: It was not only, I lay down my life for my sheep, but he sayes also, No man can take away my soule; And, I have power to lay it down; And De facto, he did lay it down, he did dye, before the torments could have extorted his soule from him; Many crucified men lived many dayes upon the Crosse; The thieves were alive, long after Christ was dead; and therefore Pilate wondred, that he was already dead. His soule did not leave his body by force, but because he would, and when he would, and how he would;Thus far then first, this is an answer to this question, Quis homo? Christ did not die naturally, nor violently, as all others doe, but only voluntarily



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ukrainian aka "adada-inn"

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iamblackbird, it is very plenty thanks!

Any problems: "goe out" ~ "go out"?

And more.
"Quis homo" ~ "What is man" -- from Plautus?.. Bible?..

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It is crucial! -- "...he did dye, before the torments could have extorted his soule from him..."


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joresh

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IN UR HINEY!

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adada-inn

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It is interesting, whether argument Thomas DeQuincey in his spore with John Donn is recognized now?"Now, whenever this view of corporal punishment becomes general (as inevitably it will, under the influence of advancing civilization), I say, that Donne's principle will then become applicable to this case, and it will be the duty of a man to die rather than to suffer his own nature to be dishonored in that way.
But so long as a man is not fully sensible of the dishonor, to him the dishonor, except as a personal one, does not wholly exist. In general, whenever a paramount interest of human nature is at stake, a suicide which maintains that interest is self-homicide: but, for a personal interest, it becomes self-murder.
And into this principle Donne's may be resolved." (ON SUICIDE)

Or this argument only seems -- prima facie --reliable? :)

justas1946@nm.ru

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James Brody

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A pdf is available: www.philosophy.utah.edu/onlinepublications

JB

Editor & Host, www.behavior.net/bolforums


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