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Gary A. Stringer

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JNWall

In London after the Donne Conference, I saw a new statue of Donne that has recently (2012) been put up on the grounds of St Paul's Cathedral. Check out www.virtualpaulscrossproject.blogspot.com for images. All best, JNW PS this forum needs to become a monitored forum.

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Norman W. Turner

Hello, Please excuse me. I am not a member of the Society. I am interested in the "No man is an island" excerpt from a Christian point of view. Specifically, I am searching for the potential implications of the excerpt on Chrsitian attitudes to humanity. Has anyone written on how this e...

Kristi Tuck Austin

In your opinion, what is the most complete, detailed, and well-researched biography availalbe? Thank you for your time and help. I look forward to learning more.

Margery

Where can I find information on the John Donne Society Awards--criteria for nomination, selection, etc. Thanks.

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Serge

Hello, everyone! I'm looking for a native speaker of English interested in John Donne's poetry, who would help me to understand some "dark spots" in Donne. I'm trying to translate "Songs and Sonnets" to my mothertongue (belarussian) now, it's my hobby. I would be happy to ma...

Mike Elliston

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Jameela Lares

Colleagues, I'm away from my office and trying to locate a quotation about Donne on line. I believe C. S. Lewis claimed that Donne seems more learned than he is because he knows different things from us. Or something like that. I'm not having any luck on line because I can't remember the phrasing. If...

Emily Barker

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Tom Cain

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Gabriel Berzescu

Does anyone know where I can find Donne's "Biathanatos" ?

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Please help! Does anyone know which of Donne's sermons address any or all of the five points of Calvinism (Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and the Perseverance of the Saints)? Your assistance is most appreciated! Thank you in advance! Justi...

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What are the major connecting themes in Donne's elegies? And what sets them apart from the rest of his work?

Anonymous

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Tom Parkinson

Hi. I hope this doesn't come off as a bit too slack (or inappropriate) but I've been trying to track down a poem/passage: The imagery contains bees (honey makers?), being stung & drowning in honey (abandonment?). ...that's all coming off of an aural recollection from a while back so the pie...

Christopher Baker

Donne's Holy Sonnet 18 ("Show me, dear Christ. . .") displays his concern at the challenge of finding Christ's true denominational "spouse." I would appreciate being directed to other statements about this same problem as expressed by Donne's contemporaries, whether in...

Michelle Rioux

Hello--I am a student very intrigued by Donne's references to the sun in his poetry. Is there an efficient way to going about finding references to the sun in other poetry written in the period. I am specifically interested in whether there are other poems in which the speaker addresses the sun direct...

Pam Davis

I welcome any ideas/insights about the cragged hill of truth (my paraphrase) mentioned in Satire III. Is that imagery evident elsewhere in Donne's oeuvre? What are other images of truth? Combs and Sullen's Concordance only has four references to "truth." Thanks.

greg kneidel

To his ingenious friend. R. A. Desert and praise are Twiins. The first being quicke, The second still is so; of if it die, Then is the first too sound, or else too sicke, And so may dye in grace, or Envies eye. But this with wonder in my stomacke stickes, That Satyrs wrapt but in base Balladrie Are prais'...

patrick sullivan padraeg@hotmail.com

Can you send me Dunne's original version pls? padraeg@hotmail.com

Thomas Tran

Hello everybody, I've been reading some of the threads and it sounds like you guys really know John Donne Poems. I would like some help in establishing his context in relation to his poems. At the moment, I have been having trouble finding context in relation to certain poems. Aside from "Hym...

Sachiko Namamura

Perhaps everyone agrees Loves exchange is based on the story of Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe. I find the poem very witty but some parts trouble me.So, Id like some of you to answer the following questions for me. Q1. Judging from the first line, I think the god of Love is regarded as a kind of de...

Gary Stringer

Dear Colleagues, Although we will add a couple more features over the next week or so, the new website (DigitalDonne: the Online Variorum) is now up and available for use. We're calling Feb. 1, 2011, the official launch date. I encourage you to log on and browse around to get a sense of what is ther...

LCook

Hi. I'm a doctoral student in classical voice. I am looking for any settings of John Donne's sonnets, just out of curiosity. Any ideas? I'm not looking for Kolbel or Van Morrison. :) Thanks!

Steven Rubenstein

Does anybody know why Donne (if that is who titled them so) called his Elegies "Elegies"? As far as I can tell, there's nothing elegiac about them. What did he (or his editors) understand an "elegy" to mean?

Gary Ettari

Learned Colleagues, My name is Gary Ettari and I teach Renaissance literature at UNC-Asheville. I'm currently teaching a special topics course entitled "Renaissance Bodies and Souls" and an interesting discussion occurred the other day. After having read the Holy Sonnets and var...

Anonymous

There is an oft quoted line in the Life of Donne, "the English Church had gained a second S. Augustine (sig. B2)." Can anyone tell me what (sig. B2) refers to?

Anonymous

Can anybody tell me the correct pronunciation of Wroth. Is it pronounced like roth or worth? Thanks.

Mitch Harris

The Society website has the 2007 Conference running from February 14-18. Is this correct? Typically, we run from Thursday to Sunday (Feb. 15-18).

Syd Conner

Just wanted to let everyone know that Donne's sermons (based on the Potter and Simpson edition) are now available online -- with some nifty bells and whistles -- at {http://lib.byu.edu/donne/}. And should you ever lose track of the URL, we have linked it on the Donne Society's "Related Sites" page (...

Gary Stringer

The Holy Sonnets volume of the Donne Variorum is out and may be purchased online at the IUP web site (http://iupress.indiana.edu). The title page and table of contents may be viewed on the DV web site (http://donnevariorum.tamu.edu).

Noel

Greetings one and all. Someone has posed a question to me, and I'm stumped. In Donne's "The Primrose," he walks "to find a true love." Now, I'm assuming he's not just wandering about on the hill, looking for a girlfriend, although that's possible I sup...

Thomas Tseng (Kaohsiung, Taiwan)

Dear all, Ketil Bjornstad, Norwegian composer/pianist, has just finished recording his third Donne album, entitled The Light & Four Nordic Songs, which will be released in 2008. The album contains the following settings: "The Dream," "The Prohibition," "A Val...

I. Ballocchi

Hi to all, i would like you to know about a new italian site about John Donne's translations. I think it might be helpful for those of you who can understand both this two beautiful languages. The site is www.johndonne.org bye!

John N Wall

The contemporary composer K. Lee Scott has composed a choral piece called Requiem that uses Donne texts. You can learn more about him, and about how to order a CD of Requiem here: http://www.kleescott.com/ I heard some of this on a local classical music radio station. Sounded very nice. He has also do...

Theresa DiPasquale

My husband and I recently ordered the first season of the British TV show "Hex" through Netflix. A scene early in the opening episode features a classroom in which a group of insolent private school teens are listening to their teacher read "The Good Morrow." The subsequent...

Gary A. Stringer

Today is the 377th anniversary of Donne's death. Since we don't know the exact birth date, he never gets mentioned on Garrison Keillor's poet's corner thing on NPR. But today Garrison did read Marvell's "The Definition of Love."

Brian Blackley, Sec-Treas.

Please join other members of the Donne Society in posting remembrances, tributes, and celebrations of our late friend.

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	Lady Mary Wroth (Preview) Can anybody tell me the correct pronunciation of Wroth. Is it pronounced like roth or worth? Thanks.	Anonymous	0	2890	Thu Sep 9 1:45 PM, 2010 by Anonymous
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	DV 7.1 (Preview) The Holy Sonnets volume of the Donne Variorum is out and may be purchased online at the IUP web site (http://iupress.indiana.edu). The title page and table of contents may be viewed on the DV web site (http://donnevariorum.tamu.edu).	Gary Stringer	3	1615	Tue Aug 31 3:08 AM, 2010 by Forrest Hall
	True Loves & Primroses (Preview) Greetings one and all. Someone has posed a question to me, and I'm stumped. In Donne's "The Primrose," he walks "to find a true love." Now, I'm assuming he's not just wandering about on the hill, looking for a girlfriend, although that's possible I sup...	Noel	4	5985	Tue Aug 31 3:04 AM, 2010 by Forrest Hall
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	EVen more Donne music (Preview) The contemporary composer K. Lee Scott has composed a choral piece called Requiem that uses Donne texts. You can learn more about him, and about how to order a CD of Requiem here: http://www.kleescott.com/ I heard some of this on a local classical music radio station. Sounded very nice. He has also do...	John N Wall	1	1995	Tue Aug 31 2:16 AM, 2010 by Raymond Edgar
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	Anniversary (Preview) Today is the 377th anniversary of Donne's death. Since we don't know the exact birth date, he never gets mentioned on Garrison Keillor's poet's corner thing on NPR. But today Garrison did read Marvell's "The Definition of Love."	Gary A. Stringer	1	2423	Tue Aug 31 1:42 AM, 2010 by Anonymous
	Tributes to Professor Al Labriola (Preview) Please join other members of the Donne Society in posting remembrances, tributes, and celebrations of our late friend.	Brian Blackley, Sec-Treas.	6	4862	Tue Aug 31 1:28 AM, 2010 by Raymond Edgar
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